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Progressives Look Toward November

July 6, 2014

Is it possible for New York state to be more progressive than it already is? We’re about to find out. An uneasy coalition that allowed Republicans to share power in the state Senate is ending....

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DavidVA

Jul-22-14 3:15 PM

FWIW, Lee Iacocca invented the pony car, and fought Henry Ford II to get it built. In fact, Ford told him that the car had better sell or he was fired. The Mustang is now celebrating its 50 year anniversary.

BTW, he's also a Democrat, if that means anything at all in this context.

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DavidVA

Jul-22-14 3:06 PM

Bluesman wrote: "No one opposes help for those who really need it. The problem is, some who are well able to help themselves, still convince some on the left to give them what they could get for themselves."

The real handouts to the undeserving are:

+ 6-figure payouts to millionaire farmers.

+ subsidized fees on Federal land for all the extractive industires, like metal ores, natural gas and oil.

+ also of note are the unnecessary miltary contract set-asides to keep our "critical miltary suppliers in business". We may never use them, but we're going to buy several hundred F-35 joint strike fighters that are mission unready for all identified missions, at a mere cost of $400 Million each ... more for some configurations.

So fix some of that waste first before you take food out the mouths of children.

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DavidVA

Jul-18-14 9:53 AM

formerlylone, the only consistent positions held by Progressives and liberals, whether Democrat or otherwise, involve social issues. I assume you oppose pro-Choice, gay marriage and help for the poor. I also assume you oppose immigration reform. After that, there isn't much those groups share in common.

On economics, they are all over the board. Some are corporatists, but they share that with non-Tea Party conservatives. Others want more for the 99%, which, nominally, the Tea Party favors too.

So I guess you're just angry that people not like you are given some respect and support.

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DavidVA

Jul-18-14 9:44 AM

bluesman wrote, "We do seem to all agree that greedy unions hurt the auto industry in Detroit..."

Keep in mind that the Germans are the highest paid auto workers in the world, and they are eating our lunch. Car companies need to focus on making cars, not profits. The profits will come if the cars are good. Even the Italians have learned this. Of the US companies, only Ford seems to be focused on the job at hand. I would add Chrysler, but they are mostly Italian now.

And FWIW, all cars are made everywhere, using the same parts from the same suppliers. A Honda may be made in Marysville Ohio. A BMW, in Spartanburg SC. A Ford, in Mexico.

The only difference is management ... period.

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DavidVA

Jul-15-14 3:22 PM

On the subject of cars and car companies: the problems with US cars in the 70s rested entirely with the management of those companies at the time. Even the companies admit it. They used the same managment philosophy then that's killing a lot other US business today: short term financial goals and huge management bonuses based on those goals.

THe Germans know better. So do the Japanese. In fact, the reason the Japanese ate our lunch, and still are, was their willlingness to adopt the ideas of W. Edwards Deming, who created the concepts of qulaity engineering and manufacture for the US military during WWII.

We ignored him after the war. The Japanese weren't so foolish.

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DavidVA

Jul-15-14 3:08 PM

Blu3d0gD3m0cr8tz chastised me for reporting on the demise of Kansas, which is in the news right now. No, I don't think it's germane to NY State but it is representative of the ever more conservative tilt of the GOP. How could anyone think that this would work? Yet here we are, with over half of the GOP supporting this idea in contradiction of both common sense and all available evidence.

I assume you are a Clintonite, based on your moniker. Feel free to back Hillary and Bill, but they are not my idea of problem solvers either. We need to move ahead. The DLC model is just more big business support, and a cut for themselves. Note the lack of anything for the 99%.

The DLC platform is just GOP-Lite. That may have had its day, but its day is now long past.

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DavidVA

Jul-14-14 4:31 PM

The state that has fallen the furthest the fastest is Kansas, where Sam Brownback and a GOP domoinated legislature have implemented the conservative dream of massive tax cuts to stimulate business. It took three years, but the state is now vying for last place economically, having lost jobs for all of those three years, and is also technically broke.

Conservatism in full bloom. They can't blame anyone else; they have had full run of the state for the entire time.

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DavidVA

Jul-14-14 4:17 PM

MacKenzie wrote, "BTW, Monkeyboy, the progressives are all of those things I listed and more. Look at every failing state and city in this country, i.e. Detroit, and then look who has been in charges in those places...it is the liberals, progressives, call them what you want, the results are the same. Progressive/liberal policies are the cause of the demise of these entities. Detroit used to be a magnificent city, 50 years of liberal/progressive rule and now look at it. Can't blame any of it on Republicans. Same with California. And, so on and so on."

The states most like the conservative dream are all the ones with the lowest standard of living. In last place is Mississippi, where over one third of all the jobs in the state are Federally funded ... and the GOP candidate to replace their current Senator got rave reviews for wanting to cut all that pork.

Be very careful what you wish for.

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MacKenzie

Jul-11-14 4:12 PM

BTW, Monkeyboy, the progressives are all of those things I listed and more. Look at every failing state and city in this country, i.e. Detroit, and then look who has been in charges in those places...it is the liberals, progressives, call them what you want, the results are the same. Progressive/liberal policies are the cause of the demise of these entities. Detroit used to be a magnificent city, 50 years of liberal/progressive rule and now look at it. Can't blame any of it on Republicans. Same with California. And, so on and so on.

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MacKenzie

Jul-08-14 4:00 PM

I don't hate people for their beliefs, I do hate what has happened to our country and there is NO defense of where this President and ALL Progressives, Republican and Democrat, have taken this country. Moral of the story, vote the progressives out of office.

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DavidVA

Jul-07-14 5:18 PM

Almost all voters are low-information voters, because the information sources are now so polarized that only the hard core information junkies visit enough sources to get a taste of what all parties and groups actually believe. Then there is the problem with opinions and those pesky facts that keep getting in the way.

For the less-than-Progressive majority here, try this link for a really different take on spending: www<DOT>nytimes<DOT>com/2014/07/07/opinion/our-mismeasured-economy<DOT>html?ref=opinion.

Replace each <DOT> with a period, and read. It's short, so your blood pressure won't get out of hand.

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MacKenzie

Jul-06-14 5:49 PM

Carlaw, you are correct, progressing is the polar opposite of what they are doing to us and the country. The liberals aka socialists aka communists aka facists hyjack the language to lull the low-information crowd and stupid people into a false sense of security, while they pillage our freedoms and rights. They, too, will rue the day. Progressive needs to be replaced with train-wreck, which is what has happened to everything they touch.

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Catman

Jul-06-14 8:38 AM

It will be interesting to see if the low information voters prevail and elect Democrats or the populace has had enough and vote in true change with Rob Astorino and the Republicans.

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carlaw

Jul-06-14 6:56 AM

Progressive is the wrong word. Socialistic is closer to the NY State Democrat agenda. The word Progressive sounds like progress or moving in a forward positive direction. It is a misnomer.

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