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National Debt: Enough Already

January 16, 2014

Both liberals in Congress and President Barack Obama insist they will not tolerate conservative initiatives to get government spending under contro....

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DavidVA

Jan-30-14 9:06 PM

This one additional comment will make it 250 on this thread. I'm not a true regular here. Is this a record?

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Seadog

Jan-27-14 7:22 PM

Call a wambalance Pitts. I could give a rat's behind where Sadamn got his WMDs that YOU SAID did not exist. What about the factories that made the gas that the UN found? You said there were no WMDs and I simply asked what did you call a gas that killed 159,000 Kurds

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Seadog

Jan-27-14 3:04 PM

davypitts, did you even bother to google Kurds killed by gas, Kurds killed by Sadamn Huessin?

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Seadog

Jan-27-14 3:01 PM

The same way you feel anything you post is relevant!

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Seadog

Jan-27-14 9:32 AM

Davy, Michaelatw, or Onehandclapping, different name, same moronic retoric.

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formerlyphil

Jan-27-14 9:16 AM

just so everybody is clear the nuclear weapons are wmds. gas & other chemical agents are not. thanks davey.

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formerlyphil

Jan-27-14 9:14 AM

i merely asked you to cite a source. no need to be a d.bag. i asked too much of you & for that i apologize.

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DavidVA

Jan-27-14 8:46 AM

@Seadog - I found no evidence of 159,000 Kurds killed or injured. I did find a similar number of Iranian casualties from Saddam's gas attacks on them.

But neither is the reason we went to war ... which is the point.

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DavidVA

Jan-27-14 8:39 AM

@formerlyphil - Reading comprehension is important. 'Nuf said.

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DavidVA

Jan-27-14 8:35 AM

@Seadog, loneriderrr1, et al -

Ever heard of a strawman? You seem to think that the presense of poison gas is adequate justificatin for invading other countries ... except that no one has ever made that case. We invaded Iraq because they supposedly had a nuclear program. They didn't. The rest is just post-hoc justification for an illegal action.

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DavidVA

Jan-27-14 8:29 AM

I htought this was a dead topic, but ...

@EaglesWings - No, deaths are always tragic, but not all deaths are a good reason to go to war. If that was the case, we would be fighting all over the world, all the time.

Saddam was a garden variety tyrant. We went after this guy, because he was sitting on a pool of oil. Not so in the Sudan, which was worse by far. Now it's Syria. Should we invade there too?

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Seadog

Jan-26-14 10:49 PM

"The gas handed Saddam by Reagan,was used in 1988. Now unless you can prove he saved some, I am forced to conclude that, THAT "gas" played no role in the LIE referencing WMD'S IN 2003"

So, according to Prof. Pitts, there was no gassing of the Kurds because Sadamn used up all the gas Regan gave him. You are either very dumb, delusional, or off your rocker. What killed all those Kurds Professor?

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formerlyphil

Jan-26-14 7:55 PM

the general consensus is that around 90% of saddam's wmds were either used on his own people or rendered inert over time by '03. but (as pointed out earlier) this wasn't a partisan issues. many democrats supported the iraqi invasion.

as far as where the materials to make the wmds came from the general consensus is they came from the intelligence agencies of the u.s. & britain.

phil the fact checker rates all this garbage as half true, half false.

either way we're lost on a tangent again. s.o.p. for our forum lol.

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Seadog

Jan-26-14 7:31 PM

Call a wambalance Pitts. I could give a rat's behind where Sadamn got his WMDs that YOU SAID did not exist. What about the factories that made the gas that the UN found? You said there were no WMDs and I simply asked what did you call a gas that killed 159,000 Kurds. Still no answer.

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Seadog

Jan-26-14 6:06 PM

Oh, and to set the record straight, I never said you posted anything about nukes. What I did was post a definition of WMDs that you DID SAY didn't exist. So, in reality, you lied when you said they didn't exist. Good try though.

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Seadog

Jan-26-14 6:04 PM

You're right Pitts, never mentioned nukes like you pal Davy - who happens to be hiding too. But funny you never answered my question after your goofy comment "Hummmm--where were they--those weapons of mass deception that is? Did they simply disappear in a sandstorm--or were they moved under cover of nitefall". And I asked

"Oh, and Pitts, what would you call the gas that Hussein used to kill thousands of Kurds"?

I'll ask again, were they WMDs that killed 150,000 Kurds? If not, and WMDs didn't exist as YOU STATED, what in your Obama dream type world would you call them!

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EaglesWings

Jan-26-14 7:56 AM

Twist a word, remove a word, insert a word. That's the way to do it gravelboy! Who accused you of hating the USA? You were simply asked a question, and I kept it simple for you to understand:

Do you really hate the USA that much?

Do you see the question mark?

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Seadog

Jan-25-14 10:37 PM

So sad when the lefties are PROVEN wrong....not.

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Seadog

Jan-25-14 10:36 PM

Hey Davy and Pitts - I don't see anything about nukes in this article about WMD.

"A teenage Russian national was arrested late Friday on charges of possessing a weapon of mass destruction, police in Altoona, Pa. said.

Blair County Prison confirmed to Fox News that Vladislav Miftakhov, 19, is in custody.

Altoon Mayor Matthew Pacifico said Miftakjov is a student at Penn State University Altoona.

He is charged with possessing a weapon of mass destruction, risking a catastrophe, possessing instruments of crime, prohibited offensive weapons, incendiary devices, recklessly endangering another person, and several drug-related charges"

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formerlyphil

Jan-25-14 6:16 PM

i searched for quite some time & the reports of casualties was vague at best.

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formerlyphil

Jan-25-14 3:05 PM

yeah riderrr 13 people died on the tokyo subway attack. my assumption is that 'ole davey is asserting that when saddam gassed his own kurdish people they weren't considered civilians.

it's laughable & unfathomable but i guess we'll just have to wait for clarification.

as far as the numbers go for the attacks on ethiopians by the italians they're quite murky. not many historical records exist & there seems to be an underlying attitude of ignoring the events. please cite some references dave as to where you got the 150k civilians gassed by italy in the 2nd italo-ethiopian war. thanks.

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formerlyphil

Jan-25-14 1:15 PM

also, i should note, that i'm not at all asserting that evidence was construed as well as few & far between leading up to the second invasion.

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formerlyphil

Jan-25-14 1:11 PM

Jan-24-14 12:31 PM

only partly true. the iaea was not the only watchdog group looking for weapons in iraq.

strangely absent dave is any references to unscom. maybe you've never heard of them. it's an acronym for the united nations special commission on iraq. they were looking for everything except nukes.

they were there throughout the 90s & into 2003.

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formerlyphil

Jan-25-14 12:47 PM

Jan-24-14 12:53 PM

@formerlyphil - The largest gas attack by and against civilans was the sarin gas attack in the Tokyo subway by Aum Shinrikyo.

dave how did you arrive at this conclusion?

are you asserting the kurds that saddam gassed were not civilians?

c'mon lol i mean really...

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Seadog

Jan-25-14 2:52 AM

"To blame Reagan for gassing the Kurds is about as un-American as one could get. Do you really hate the USA that much?"

Eagle, nail on the head! Those that blame real Americans do hate this country. Barry, Holder, Pelosi, Reid, Pitts, Schumer, Sanders, and the rest of the left.

And yes Pitts, it's after 2:00 and I'm posting.

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