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Candidates Focus On County’s Economy

Horrigan, Johnson Pitch Different Plans For Same Result

October 20, 2013

Both county executive candidates are laying out more plans for economic development and growth....

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hacksbgone

Oct-23-13 7:52 AM

From HelenW: "Government providing incentives for new businesses in the tech sector will produce real jobs, not just low skill, part time, no benefits work. Mr Horrigan's plan seems ill advised to me." Real jobs? You seem pretty sure of this.... What kind of jobs? If they are high-tech who will take these jobs? Will these jobs be taken by the unemployed and under employed who lack the skills and training? Johnson's plan seems like a glorified work-study option to place dubious investment into on-campus speculative businesses. That plan will not train workers in your community. That plan will not enhance welfare to work. That plan will not support current businesses. That's why Ron John's plan is a pipe dream in a fairy tale. Keep supporting that union-bought hack and you can look forward to the erosion of the County under the dubious leadership of someone who built his platform from the labor union instruction manual and a Google search on how to be a politician.

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KiaStone

Oct-23-13 7:23 AM

As a commercial property owner, I wanted to see how Start-Up NY would affect me. It appears the college acts as the landlord, which pulls businesses away from privately-owned commercial property. In addition, the only eligible property in Chautauqua County is the SUNY Fredonia Incubator. How is this helpful? I think Mr. Johnson is misguided on this. Both candidates should look at the Dream It Do It program which links the educational system with local manufacturing companies to prepare students for jobs right here in Chautauqua County. This program has the support and collaboration with the Chamber of Commerce as well.

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HelenW

Oct-22-13 5:17 PM

I'm not sure from where you're coming up with "magic wands and fairy dust," hacksbgone. If you have a cogent argument, why do you feel you have to invent a straw man to put down Mr Johnson's plan?

Government providing incentives for new businesses in the tech sector will produce real jobs, not just low skill, part time, no benefits work. Mr Horrigan's plan seems ill advised to me. I articulated why I think so. Maybe you can get further ahead by making some sense in your opposition?

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hacksbgone

Oct-21-13 2:49 PM

Ah yes....the Ron John pipe dream of throwing money at a couple of small regional education institutions with the idea that somehow the jobs will appear. Is this Ron's handful of magic beans? I prefer the candidate that does not take his platform from a fairy tale (or a union mission statement). Welfare to work. job training for the unemployed and under-employed. Lean government to lower taxes and encourage business growth and retention. That, Ron John, is how you build a platform. Vince Horrigan has a solid plan that does not rely on magic wands and fairy dust.

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Emelye

Oct-21-13 10:08 AM

His plan seeks to create a business environment that encourages private development and application of new technologies instead of "make work" jobs for a single constituency.

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Emelye

Oct-21-13 10:07 AM

Mr Johnson's plan to build up a business/higher education partnership, on the other hand, seems to me like a good one. It encourages the kind of high tech development that grows not just jobs but good jobs. It's a plan that encourages an environment of business growth and is certainly not some kind of make work program for a constituency who, while they deserve a hand up, certainly do not deserve the poorly considered handout of a job whose efficacy is quite questionable and whose life expectancy would thus probably be quite short. I'm all for helping our veterans but not in the cheap and artificial way that Mr Horrigan wants to "help" them.

Ron Johnson seems to be a lot more forward thinking and willing to look at the big picture, which is the government's job, I believe, rather than looking at small fixes that may or may not work. His plan seeks to create a business environment that encourages private development and application of new technologies instead of "ma

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Emelye

Oct-21-13 9:58 AM

From this article it seems clear that Mr Horrigan's plan to make up a new kind of job description for veterans is short sighted and rather foolish. What qualifies a veteran, someone who comes out of a military culture, to coach a job holder in the private sphere? The two cultures are so very different I can;t see how being a veteran qualifies someone to be a job coach.

Creating a regional water system sounds good but the idea pales when I consider the Republican tendency of privatizing public services. Will this system be built by public funds and labor only to be sold off to some corporation who will reduce service or raise prices to ensure a profit? Let's not forget that governments are non-profit organizations.

Mr Horrigan's plans seem reasonable on the surface but when you think about them, there's a great deal about them to be very wary of.

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SCALLYWAG

Oct-20-13 8:03 PM

How about this it is not the politicians job to create jobs. Help create an atmosphere that makes business want to come to this god forsaken county and state. If politicians could create jobs they would not be out begging the taxpayers and voters for one of them jobs

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WNYReality

Oct-20-13 3:37 PM

Ole Ronnie J. Let's take a look at how his election would go......one of his first printed statements was to promise to settle the county union contracts. That's Ron 1, taxpayer 0; Ron wants to keep the county home with no stated plan to reverse the losses. Ron 2, taxpayer 0. If Ron wins he gets to put his public pension on hold and increase his earnings to retire a 2nd time at a higher pension. Ron 3, taxpayer 0. Perhaps he has plans to give his csea employee wife a promotion when he's elected? Ron 4, taxpayer 0. I think the taxpayer has really lousy odds with Ronnie J. Keep this bum out of office!

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Oelwyn

Oct-20-13 2:01 PM

"Make work"positions for returning Veterans?Excellent.How about some training programs for the unemployed to help the local Manufacturers that can't find anyone that can 'do the work'?Instead of "make work" how about paid training.The students get a boost-The local economy gets a boost,and Manufactories get a boost with qualified labor.And if you care about water quality forget the short term 'Fracking' solution -When the gas is gone the Waste remains for a very long time.Democratic principles emerge as the focus of the Republican.Signs and wonders abound.

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GeorgeB67

Oct-20-13 1:07 PM

All I can say, Norm, is your tent is a circus tent full of holes.

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Orangeman

Oct-20-13 12:37 PM

Am I the only one who thinks that this campaign for county executive has been very silent up till now?

I'm remembering debates between Jack Glenzer and Ted Smith, and Mark Thomas and Andy Goodell, they were very clearly defined, and you knew exactly what each canditate stood for.

These two guys, seems very lifeless, its a very boring race, I dont see any passion in this race.

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Catman

Oct-20-13 12:32 PM

Johnson hasn't presented a clear plan to make the County Home solvent and he wants us to trust he can handle bigger issues. He is simply not up for the job.

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NPGREEN

Oct-20-13 11:31 AM

George: The difference with the Johnson view and the Horrigan view is dramatic. Vince and company failed to be transparent on the north county water district proposal. That is apparently why Fredonia rejected the north county water district (for now( and why Dunkirk is now having second thoughts about what they got themselves into. I personally believe in the north county water district and I agree it's the proper role of government. You know Ron Johnson and you know he will be transparent and open on this. Vince is in the thick of the water district and thus far all of the folks involved in the district proposal have not been open, or transparent. Fiinally, I wish one of my political science professors were here to listen to your defense of a Republican candidate backing the expansion of government. I agree with you both on the role of government. It is after all, the basic Democratic principal and what normally separates Democrats and Republicans. Welcome to our tent!!!

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Conservative1212

Oct-20-13 9:49 AM

We surely do not need another democrat in gov't anywhere to continue to*****the taxpayer dry.

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Catman

Oct-20-13 9:13 AM

Does Johnson seriously believe this Mickey Mouse plan to follow Herr Cuomo and give tax free benefits to a few select cronies around State education institutions is going to revitlaize jobs in Chautauqua County? This plan has as much promise for economic revitalization as Obamacare. How can these limited areas benefit the whole county-especially when they aren't paying any taxes?

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GeorgeB67

Oct-20-13 9:04 AM

Good morning Norm... So let's begin then. Developing and maintaining infrastructure is not a liberal agenda. In fact it's the proper role of government. It's this expansion into everything else that liberals have done to expand their power- that's the problem.

But let's get back to the local issues. You are calling Vince's economic plan liberal. You can do that because, unlike his opponent, he actually HAS a plan. His opponent's is non existent so there's nothing to criticize. He says has plan to fix the county home. What is it?

He's going to make sure that unions are "better represented" in county government. Whether you are pro union or not, you can't possibly think they are under-represented. And, by the way, your guy is also in favor of the north county water district. Time for another cup of coffee Norm. :-)

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1Diablo

Oct-20-13 8:55 AM

I have a great idea , how about we go pre 79 and get rid of the position county executive? After all it was the Goodell and Geracie brain child and first two County executives late 70's. Eliminate position!!

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NPGREEN

Oct-20-13 8:10 AM

The usual GOP bloggers are silent today as of 8:00 a.m. It's understandable...Vince Horrigan's plan for the economic recovery is to create a massive public works project and a massive water agency to run it. Sounds like a big spending liberal?

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duckster

Oct-20-13 8:07 AM

Good morning : munch chomp slurp

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