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Lack Of Knowledge Of Guns Is The Problem

August 19, 2013

To The Reader’s Forum: I would like to write this in response to the person who wrote the Open Letter to Senator Young. American citizens’ Second Amendment is not the problem....

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MacKenzie

Aug-19-13 3:08 AM

That anti-gun letter was written by Sam Alessi, a liberal crackpot, who believes that law-abiding, background checked gun owners that can only have 7 bullets in their guns makes us safer. Only idiots believe that. How many bullets does the law allow the "bad guys" to have in their guns?

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Brianmel

Aug-19-13 3:50 AM

Great letter and thank you, Very well written,

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darkeagle

Aug-19-13 5:40 AM

Good job , well written.

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redbird

Aug-19-13 6:18 AM

Great letter Tyler,this is really not about guns,it's about control itself! What do Pol Pot,Hitler,Stalin,Lenin, have in common? Complete control of all that you can do,no freedom only oppression. Cuomo and Obama are not fer behind.Live free or die!! The gun haters will have no place at my place of protection."If ever the time comes that vain and inspiring men should hold the highest seats in gov't our country will stand in need of it's experienced patriots to prevent it's ruin" Samuel Adams founding father of the U.S, Constitution. Benjamin Franklin said when asked,what kind of gov't have given us? his reply was"A republic,if you can keep it" The gun haters and those like them are trying to destroy the republic because of the lack of knowledge you speak of. Not only about guns,but about an array of many subjects confronting this country,they love being part of the problem,rather than part of the solution,it gets their fragile little ego's the attention they so des

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nonfiction

Aug-19-13 6:21 AM

"Do you not realize that a majority of this county is rural, filled with farmers, hunters, and many others who use guns responsibly."

Yes and these people support universal background checks. I agree the SAFE law is flawed, but New York isn't the problem. Most of the illegal guns on the streets are purchased in places with lacks gun laws at gun shows and other dealers that do not sell properly.

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sonoma

Aug-19-13 6:51 AM

For a screen name of non-fiction you sure spout a lot of fiction.

According to Law Enforcement survey of convicted felons less than 1% got their weapon at a gun show or venue where a background check could have made a difference. Most were stolen or obtained through a straw purchaser or family member.

As for the media hyped 90% and near 90% NRA members supporting background checks explain why more people were relieved that the laws were shot down than were upset. Also explain how they managed to survey so many NRA members when the NRA doesn't release their membership list. While your at it explain how the CBS and Bloomberg supposedly impartial survey's found 3 times as many NRA households as exist in America. CBS claimed 11.2% of households in a random survey contained a NRA member when only approx. 3.5% of the nations households actually contain a NRA member.

More BS from the anti gun liberal media.

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nonfiction

Aug-19-13 6:53 AM

Why do people use the founding fathers quotes in modern day gun control debate? That's like using Ptolemy's work to explain Einstein's theory of relativity. The Revolutionary War was a 8 year conflict with dozens of battle and dozens of more raids and small skirmishes. an estimated 8000 people died in battle. The bloodiest battle of the war saw 600 die. The killing capacity of guns were nothing like it would be even 90 years later in the civil war. AK 47s and AR 15s were out of the realm of thought of founding fathers. Actually at that time they were viewed as more humane than the earlier forms of hand to hand combat. Civilian crime with guns was almost non existent, outside of duels.

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nonfiction

Aug-19-13 7:03 AM

"According to Law Enforcement survey of convicted felons less than 1% got their weapon at a gun show or venue where a background check could have made a difference. Most were stolen or obtained through a straw purchaser or family member."

Yes, just as less than 1% of drug dealers get their coke directly from Columbia. The lacks gun laws in places like South Carolina make it easy to purchase guns in the south and sell them in inner cities with zero ability to trace where they came from. Thats the problem. There needs to be accountability for both gun dealerships and people selling them illegally nationwide. Why is this a problem?

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Kramer

Aug-19-13 8:26 AM

Very well written letter. I concur with your statements.

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redbird

Aug-19-13 8:28 AM

Nonfiction, for your information you would not be voicing your opinion here, if it were not for the founding fathers who drew up the bill of rights you so enjoy, until your modern day gov't takes them away,or tries to.It's obvious to me you have no backbone to stand up for what this country was brought into existence for in the first place! Move to somalia see if you like there any better!! Two books to read{if you can}1776 and the men who started the american revolution,there you will find the facts,and the death tolls,which you are way off on.History is a great teacher,study it,learn from it.Or are you just another narrow minded gun hater??? I already know what you are,history has taught me well!!!!!!!

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nonfiction

Aug-19-13 8:43 AM

"death tolls,which you are way off"

No i am correct. You maybe mistaking total number of people who died. which was around 25,000 for total number who died in battle 8000. But an est. 17000 of them died from disease, starvation ect... especially on British POW ships.

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nonfiction

Aug-19-13 8:56 AM

I am not a narrow minded gun hater. I am in favor of certain measures of gun control, and the issue is not black and white like many on here believe. I do not like the safe act, I feel the gun control debate needs to focus more on who has the guns then what guns they have. I do not think it is unreasonable to expect people to have a background check, apply for a permit ect... in order to buy a gun.

And of course since I don't agree with you, I am un-American, believe me I heard that when I was speaking out against the PATRIOT Act and the Iraq war, when everyone else was in line.

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redbird

Aug-19-13 9:07 AM

read the books of history nonfiction,and for godsake pay attention.Your count of 600 is nearly right if all you are talking about is the number of heads stuck on poles and driven into the ground by the Heisens for the american patriots to see as they passed by!! These ruthless murders were brought her by the british.These were the same bunch who got caught with there pants down when Washington crossed the Delaware. Study history,it just may change your mind about a few things going on today in this country!!! One can only hope.

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KCW007

Aug-19-13 9:18 AM

Wait a minute! Isn't the author of that "open letter" to Senator Young none other than former Jamestown City Judge Samuel Alessi Jr? The judge that back in May of 1980 issued a criminal arrest warrant, upon the complaint of a couple of lawyers; for a matter in which ALL involved, including Alessi, knew was strictly a civil matter! Then Alessi, having had the businessman hauled before him by the cops, questioned him without advising him of his right to counsel and, moreover, denied the defendant's request to have his lawyer present! The abuse under cover of law went even deeper than that, you can read all about it in the State's 1981 Determination of Censure against Alessi. It's sort of hypocritical that a guy who officially ordered something which might be viewed as tantamount to a kidnapping & shakedown, would be worried about my having more than seven rounds in my gun!

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nonfiction

Aug-19-13 9:22 AM

You right it doesn't include, people murdered in Indian and Hessian raids on villages, or how many POWs died. It is clearly and only how many died in battle. As i stated more than double died outside of battle. The whole point was to demonstrate that the weapons used in war in Rev and time of the const. were primitive and our founding fathers had no way of anticipating the technological growth in the future.

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hacksbgone

Aug-19-13 10:16 AM

Here we go again..... Tyler, your letter essentially repeats some of the tired words of those who have a gun hobby: Guns don't kill people, people kill people; Cars [or insert your object of choice] kill people so why not ban them? The SAFE act does nothing to keep law-abiding citizens from owning guns that are for hunting and personal protection. It serves to monitor and restrict (uh oh, there's that word that the gun nuts don't like) assault weapons and other arms from those whom have demonstrated that they are incompetent to have them. And please, let's not repeat the equally tired debate of pistol grips and magazine size. I own guns. I am free to buy other guns. I can buy ammunition for my guns. I can use my guns responsibly and safely. However, I applaud efforts to make it difficult to traffic arms to criminals and the mentally incompetent. And I shall not shed a tear over the magazine restriction. How many shots do you fire at a game target? Gun nuts may resume ranting.

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duckster

Aug-19-13 10:22 AM

Dad gum socialist gubment..I would like to say more about the 2nd amendment being stepped on .. but I have to go cash my social security check..*****these socialists!

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50s4ever

Aug-19-13 10:55 AM

It's a racist law. The culprits are primarily young black men either too young, or with a record, or living in a place they can't own a handgun. They would be incriminating themselves by applying. Violation of their 5th amendment rights. It's like the voter id law. Affecting disproportionately the urban poor blacks. Yup. Straight up racist.

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nonfiction

Aug-19-13 11:30 AM

I agree the SAFE Act isn't the answer. All seriousness, what are some ideas from the right on how to help stop gun violence?

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CCountyLifer

Aug-19-13 12:19 PM

My question for Tyler is - has the SAFE act really taken away your guns or your ability to hunt?

The answer is NO.

I am a lifelong hunter, lover of the outdoors and owned guns my whole adult life. The SAFE act isn't taking that away from me at all.

I can think beyond the pamphlets filled with lies that the NRA passes around that the SAFE act, and other proposals, don't really take anything away from your average hunter/ gun owner.

In the case of the NRA, they drifted away from their initial purpose years ago. They don't really care one way or another about gun owners, only about the Republican party that they blindly support, regardless if it's in the best interest of gun owners or not. In short, the organization is a sham.

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50s4ever

Aug-19-13 1:28 PM

Have a more liberal stop and frisk policy in Chicago?

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StoneJarl

Aug-19-13 1:44 PM

I got an idea. Let's put up lawn signs protesting the SAFE law. That will prove we are against weapons registration and protect us from those wanting to steal our guns.

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crosshairs

Aug-19-13 1:48 PM

Well written letter.CCountyLifer the SAFE act might not be taking away your guns now,but it's just the beginning.The left is on record as saying this isnt everything we wanted but it's a start.You think they are done with laws to restrict your right to guns? Some states have already passed or tried to pass laws to take your guns away.It's only the beginning

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Aug-19-13 2:00 PM

Hm... where can one start?

First, another person who makes the claim that gun laws serve no purpose. Talk about making no sense.

Even moreso, making the claim that the laws do nothing - should we abolish all laws? Since people murder and steal regardless, we should get rid of them...right? Oy.

Also, the majority of the population is NOT rural. The land area of the country is obviously rural but this nation has been urbanizing for over a century.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Aug-19-13 2:01 PM

"1) caught with an illegal gun, no matter how old"

Uh, if all gun laws are to be abolished, how is there and "illegal gun"?

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