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Common Core Is Not A Great Idea

July 20, 2013

To The Readers’ Forum: For the past three years my daughter and I have been researching the drastic changes of New York State education....

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nonfiction

Jul-22-13 7:07 AM

I feel high school has gotten away from its purpose. Which is to prepare students for post high school life. WHich is different for most students. Achievment goals should be set for certain groups of students. I feel we need to go back to tracking, but have standardization to track progress but also be flexible enough to move students among groups as they develop. High Schools need to realize that not every student is cut out for or wants to do the four year college root. These students should be given the opportunity to learn basic knowledge in trades that allow them to go into trade schools with a leg up, similar to how the goal should be to have college bound students prepared for college. Instead our current system fails both groups. High School has seemed to forget what its purpose is.

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nonfiction

Jul-22-13 6:57 AM

THe House Republicans just passed their "Student Success Act" which eliminates the need for a bachelor's degree for teachers.

Everyone talks about this far left agenda in everything yet then no one lays out what it is. But the above certainly shows what I believe is the far rights (which is the normal right now) plan to dumb down America. Im not an expert on the bill but it does not set any achievement standards and lacks any focus on STEM areas. I dont agree with race to the top. But I don't think the student success act is a better alternative.

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nonfiction

Jul-22-13 6:52 AM

"THe House Republicans just passed their "Student Success Act" which eliminates the need for a bachelor's degree for teachers."

I think eliminating the need for a teaching degree would be a better start. I think schools should be able to pull people out of the private sector to find qualified teachers. I do think it can be a problem that a lot of teachers go from high school to college then back to high-middle-elementary school to teach.

But I certainly do not want people with two year degrees or no degree at all teaching. There's no way to judge in a couple interviews that persons knoweldge in the area, and critical thinking skills. Which for the most part you need for and any degree if it be english or molecular physics.

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CREDENCE

Jul-21-13 8:35 AM

ironyoozesfromyouryap, writes: "Credence - your comments are the most idiotic thing I've read on here in a long time." Ans. Try reading your handle; it easily tops my comments.

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FedUpL8ly

Jul-21-13 4:40 AM

zedman- I haven't heard anything about the "Student Success Act" and it seems that finding qualified people to teach shouldn't be too hard with all of the undergraduates that are currently unemployed. However, requiring graduate degrees (Masters and Doctorate) to teach should go by the wayside. Some of the worst professors I had in college were PhD's. Several student assessment studies have shown that having a Masters Degree doesn't improve student test scores.

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Coppergoat

Jul-20-13 5:18 PM

BTW, Credence copied his screed word for word from Maureen Scott, a woman with no credentials whatsover. Lying and cheating...that's how conservatives roll.

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Coppergoat

Jul-20-13 5:13 PM

Hey, aren't these two the ones who complained about "Go Ask Alice" being used at Persell? I generally avoid this phrase, as it usually signals the opposite of what the user intends, but in this case I'm going with "'nuff said."

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-20-13 10:43 AM

Credence - your comments are the most idiotic thing I've read on here in a long time.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-20-13 10:41 AM

Copperoat - I'm cracking up at your comment. I don't think the 4 people thumbing you up had a clue of your satire.

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CREDENCE

Jul-20-13 10:36 AM

Deatr suckers, Most people who think 'Truth is a bad thing' went to Harv. prince. yale liberal cheapy "law" schools... etc and are now stealing your money & using it to rule your lives and float their own.

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CREDENCE

Jul-20-13 10:16 AM

Ducky did you go to Harvard by any chance?

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duckster

Jul-20-13 9:57 AM

****gum gubment..nown back to Hannity

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CREDENCE

Jul-20-13 9:42 AM

The headquarters under BHO wants common core to capture & control the Young minds,,,, Germany 1940's

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CREDENCE

Jul-20-13 9:41 AM

1&2 Barack Obama appears to be a tormented man filled with resentment, anger, and disdain for anyone of an opinion or view other than his. He acts in the most hateful, spiteful, malevolent, vindictive ways in order to manipulate and maintain power and control over others. Perhaps, because, as a child, he grew up harboring an abiding bitterness toward the U.S. that was instilled in him by his family and mentors…it seems to have never left him.

It is not the color of his skin that is a problem in America.

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CREDENCE

Jul-20-13 9:40 AM

#3 Rather it is the blackness that fills his soul and the hollowness in his heart where there should be abiding pride and love for this country.

Think: Have we ever heard Obama speak lovingly of the U.S. or its people, with deep appreciation and genuine respect for our history, our customs, our sufferings and our blessings? Has he ever revealed that, like most patriotic Americans, he gets "goose bumps" when a band plays "The Star Spangled Banner," or sheds a tear when he hears a beautiful rendition of " America the Beautiful?" Does his heart burst with pride when millions of American flags wave on a National holiday - or someone plays "taps" on a trumpet? Has he ever shared the admiration of the military, as we as lovers of those who keep us free, feel when soldiers march by? It is doubtful because Obama did not grow up sharing our experiences or our values. He did not sit at the knee of a Grandfather or Unc

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CREDENCE

Jul-20-13 9:39 AM

#4. Away from this country as a young child, Obama didn't delight in being part of America and its greatness. He wasn't singing our patriotic songs in kindergarten, or standing on the roadside for a holiday parade and eating a hot dog, or lighting sparklers around a campfire on July 4th as fireworks exploded over head, or placing flags on the grave sites of fallen and beloved American heroes.

Rather he was separated from all of these experiences and doesn't really understand us and what it means to be an American. He is void of the basic emotions that most feel regarding this country and insensitive to the instinctive pride we have in our national heritage. His opinions were formed by those who either envied us or wanted him to devalue the United States and the traditions and patriotism that unites us.

He has never given a speech that is filled with calm, reassuring, complimentary, heartfelt statements about all the people in the U.S.

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CREDENCE

Jul-20-13 9:39 AM

#5. Or one that inspires us to be better and grateful and proud that in a short time our country became a leader, and a protector of many. Quite the contrary, his speeches always degenerate into mocking, ridiculing tirades as he faults our achievements as well as any critics or opposition for the sake of a laugh, or to bolster his ego. He uses his Office to threaten and create fear while demeaning and degrading any American who opposes his policies and actions. A secure leader, who has noble self-esteem and not false confidence, refrains from showing such dread of critics and displaying a cocky, haughty attitude.

Mostly, his time seems to be spent causing dissension, unrest, and anxiety among the people of America , rather than uniting us (even though he was presented to us as the "Great Uniter"). He creates chaos for the sake of kee

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CREDENCE

Jul-20-13 9:38 AM

#6. Not a day goes by that he is not attempting to defy our laws, remove our rights, over-ride established procedures, install controversial appointees, enact divisive mandates, and assert a dictatorial form of power. Never has there been a leader of this great land who used such tactics to harm and hurt the people and this country.

Never have we had a President who spoke with a caustic, evil tongue against the citizenry rather than present himself as a soothing, calming and trustworthy force.

Never, in this country, have we experienced how much stress one man can cause a nation of people - on a daily basis! Obama has promoted the degeneration of peace, civility, and quality of cooperation between us. He thrives on tearing us down, rather than building us up. He is the Architect of the decline of America , and the epitome of a Demagogue.

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Pete85

Jul-20-13 8:56 AM

Common core is just another way the government is luring states in by promising big money to pursue their own far left agendas

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zedman

Jul-20-13 8:53 AM

THe House Republicans just passed their "Student Success Act" which eliminates the need for a bachelor's degree for teachers. I can see how interested in student success the right wingers are.

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CREDENCE

Jul-20-13 8:27 AM

forgot the IRS

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CREDENCE

Jul-20-13 8:27 AM

Dept.of Ed., the E.P.A., energy dept.=(what a stinkin joke), and the two N.E.A.'s are not worth manure in a handbag.

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Coppergoat

Jul-20-13 8:22 AM

This letter is the best evidence there is of the need to improve our educational system, to emphasize critical thinking and literacy.

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FedUpL8ly

Jul-20-13 1:57 AM

An excellent letter addressing an important issue that is greatly overlooked. One of the biggest wastes of taxpayer dollars is the Federal Dept. of Education. One shouldn't be too surprised by the poor roll-out as it's consistent with almost all of the governmental programs lately.

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