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Dialogue Over Gun Violence Must Continue

May 9, 2013

To the Readers’ Forum: As one who believes that we must take action to limit gun violence while still preserving Second Amendment rights to allow good and decent people to possess firearms, the......

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BudZilla

May-09-13 1:41 AM

"Why do so many people not trust their government?"

If you SERIOUSLY do not know, you are beyond any possible help.

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sonoma

May-09-13 4:41 AM

Of course the writer realizes he is talking about a government that has a 12% approval rating from the citizens they are supposed to represent.

I think the Justice Dept report on firearm violence in the U.S. just validated the vote of the senators that voted no. It also showed the liberal media up for the liars and mis-leaders they are when it comes to firearms.

The gun control proposed was simply a political issue to please the president's base at the expense of everyone else. It died the death it should have. Leave it buried and move onto creating some jobs and address our national debt.

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khulumzurug

May-09-13 4:50 AM

all libs have a diseased mind that will bring this nation down. they need to all smoke more pot so they can think more clearly.

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Maddog80

May-09-13 4:57 AM

I just learned in a recent survey that 100% of American voters feel that any control laws will not address the issue of gun violence in America and instead will simply limit the rights of those who already abide by the laws. Before you projectileaphobes question my source, I surveyed myself. It's funny how data can be skewed and misleading. Just ask Al Gore and his crack team of "researchers" that duped everyone in his attempt to remain relevant in his convenient lies movie.

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Jazzie

May-09-13 6:15 AM

Surveys are polls, and done with a small amount of people, like 1001. America has over 300 million. 1000 people don't represent 100%. A gun is not going to save me if someone sneaks up from behind me nor is it going to save me from being murdered at 3 AM.

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Jazzie

May-09-13 6:24 AM

And if we allow guns on campuses and what not, when violence does break out...did anyone stop to think about how many more live may be negatively affected because a stray bullet meant for the bad guy misses him and hits an innocent bystander?

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Larry1

May-09-13 6:31 AM

All of these stupid laws penalize the honest subject while doing nothing to prevent a bad guy from doing harm. Do you really think criminal with a stolen gun is going to only load 7 bullets into it? Do you really think a stupid sign that says "gun free zone" would make any difference?

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50s4ever

May-09-13 6:33 AM

The autmor is upset with the two party system. He feels only lobbying from his ideology should be allowed. Tool. Atack the crime culture. Of course you would have a problem with carrying the majority black and Hispanic vote then. Convince the left tanked media to not give such fame to crazy killers. That won't happen, they are the attack dogs for the left. Duhhhh.

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Brent1

May-09-13 7:16 AM

Why do gun phobs want to dictate how i protect myself and family?

Gun violence penalties should be so severe, they would not happen... Unless mentally ill.

Mentally ill reporting laws need to be changed.

Do some thing that will help stop gun violence, not make law abiding people more vulnerable.

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Maddog80

May-09-13 7:23 AM

"A gun is not going to save me if someone sneaks up from behind me nor is it going to save me from being murdered at 3 AM."

Why not? I keep mine handy at 3am and it certainly gives you a better chance than if you didn't have one.

I understand your concern about stray bullets. That is a valid point. However I believe you are watching too many movies where gun battles last 15 minutes and people are ducking behind dumpsters.

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Howard

May-09-13 8:03 AM

You all are missing the point of the letter writer who, by the way, is a very respected and educated member of our community. He asks basic questions to which you respond "you are beyond any possible help." Thank goodness that the majority of these comments are from the 12% that are against background checks. Those that have the gumption to do anything are not writing trash in these spaces. Keep living in your imaginary world where you will defeat the U.S. Marines when they come to get you on the front line if this will make you happy. Just don't confuse the paper boy for a Marine, please.

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Maddog80

May-09-13 8:30 AM

Its not about fighting the marines Howard...you obviously don't get it. Its about that fact that so much time, energy and money are put forth in effort that is and will be fruitless. More laws will not stop gun violence. Criminals are aptly named because they do not respect the laws. More of the governments focus should be on larger issues at hand. Also, just because someone is "respected and educated" in the opinion of some, does not mean that everything they say is correct and should be agreed with.

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50s4ever

May-09-13 8:58 AM

Howard has a magic bain which determines we are of the 12%. It also determines who we should respect and agree with. I think he shares it with Obama. And monkey.

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Seadog

May-09-13 9:01 AM

Howie - #1 gun violence is down. #2 the majority of gun violence is carried out with ILLEGAL guns. #3 who is it that have the illegal guns - the CRIMINALS, gang bangers, and Nut jobs. #4 Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in the country - and guess what howie - Chicago also has one of the highest murder rates - and you are talking about an imaginary world gun rights individuals live in?? #5 If Obama uses the milatary against U.S. citizens, the way he did against those savages in Lybia - we don't have m,uch to worry about. #6 Joe Biden is educated and respected, and look at the moronic things he says.

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duckster

May-09-13 10:08 AM

and here comes he kooks.. enjoy your free entertainment today:

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Seadog

May-09-13 10:40 AM

Speaking of he kooks, I think they should be allowed to marry too.

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KCW007

May-09-13 10:54 AM

"Why do so many people not trust their government?" The premise to that statement being that government can/should be trusted? I take the other view, "Why on earth do so many people unquestioningly & blindly trust that government works in their best interests?". Better to start from the position that government is an evil necessity; hired help requiring constant monitoring and oversight by the people for whom they work.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

May-09-13 11:05 AM

"Of course the writer realizes he is talking about a government that has a 12% approval rating from the citizens they are supposed to represent."

False. CONGRESS has 12% approval. The President has significantly more. I don't know if they do an approval number on judges. If you think the Congress is the only part of gov't, unfortunate.

"The gun control proposed was simply a political issue to please the president's base at the expense of everyone else."

False again. It was a bi-partisan compromise.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

May-09-13 11:08 AM

"Before you projectileaphobes question my source, I surveyed myself."

You have a very malfunctioned understanding of how surveys work.

In any case, despite some of the absurd responses, this letter is exceptional and I appreciate the writer taking the time to examine the issue more objectively than most.

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GioAllie

May-09-13 11:28 AM

how does a more effective background check, stand alone bill, dictate how anyone "protects themselves"--and how would it make "law abiding people more vulnerable?"

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sonoma

May-09-13 11:54 AM

It makes the law abiding people more vulnerable by insisting a record be kept of all the people buying firearms. At any time in the future these records could be compiled to create a registry to be used to confiscate those firearms. Both Calif and N.Y. have done so in the past after promising the gun owners it wouldn't happen and Cuomo is already on record that is his next option.

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SCALLYWAG

May-09-13 12:04 PM

There is no such thing as gun violence there is only people violence

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bluesman

May-09-13 12:29 PM

I think many on the left are not so much anti-gun as they are anti-NRA. If the NRA donated millions to the Hillary 2016 campaign, pro gay marriage groups, and planned parenthood, they suddenly wouldn't be quite so anti-gun. Remember how outraged the left was over Gitmo, Until Obama took office. Gitmo is still open and no outrage.

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KCW007

May-09-13 1:27 PM

Sonoma makes a good point about registration. During the 1990's large numbers of firearms were confiscated in Great Britain and Australia by virtue of the fact that they were registered, even though it had been long promised that registration would NEVER be used for general confiscation purposes. But it gets closer to home. In 1934 Canada required the registration of handguns, once again with assurances that those records would never be used for confiscation. However in 1996 the Canadian government passed legislation which outlawed all .25 & .32 Caliber handguns with barrels of less than approx. 4" length; fully more than 50% of the duly registered handguns in the country!!! Then certain models of long guns were likewise confiscated after their now defunct long gun registry was put in place; it too with promises that such a thing would never happen!

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Brent1

May-09-13 1:55 PM

And why would one not trust the gov...

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