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The Absurdity Of ‘Universal’ Background Checks

April 14, 2013

Those who favor “universal” background checks on gun buyers make some ridiculous arguments....

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RuralGuy

Apr-15-13 7:53 AM

Excellent send it to the NYSRPA,2nd Amendment Foundation and NRA. They handle the legal aspects of our 2nd amendment.

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GioAllie

Apr-16-13 11:50 AM

another piece from a "local gun advocate"--the "Absurdity" of 90% of those polled.

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GioAllie

Apr-16-13 11:51 AM

what the "heck" do background checks have to do with any amendment? Lunacy.....

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formerlyphil

Apr-17-13 1:20 PM

perfect definition riderrr of the word lunacy!

this is just to give libiots that warm feeling in their shorts. feel good legislation.

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notmetoday

Apr-17-13 1:47 PM

"Perhaps helping explain Democrats' problems, an AP-GfK poll this month showed that 49 percent of Americans support stricter gun laws. That was down from 58 percent who said so in January" Still wonder where some of the nuts got a 90% want more gun control figure from. Maybe part of the liberal exaggerate everything handbook.

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GioAllie

Apr-17-13 5:32 PM

be proud sir--cheer on for the felons who just won--and cheer against the victims families who just got sold out--hip-hip-hurray.

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GioAllie

Apr-17-13 7:48 PM

lonerider--winning is a everything with you--but who won--the nect murdered chold--or that family? All because a bunch of cowardly SENATORSN SOLD R THEIR SOULS TO

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GioAllie

Apr-17-13 7:51 PM

--a bunch of cowardly senators sold their souls to Wayne? No one won today---shameful. Excuse the typos--

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GioAllie

Apr-18-13 9:44 AM

preach that garbage to the families of those murdered children-----hip hip -hooooray. Let's hear it for those money grabbing senators--SHAMEFUL.

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GioAllie

Apr-18-13 11:46 AM

THIS DISCUSSION IS RELATVE TO ONE ISSUE ONLY--THE ONE ISSUE THAT AMERICANS WERE UNITED BEHIND--"BACKGROUND CHECKS"--you can change the topic all you want--everyone with a once of intelligence knew that that was the only part of gun control with a chance. And it fell a few votes short because money and job security trumped the will of the people--so keep cheering with those felons--you make a great couple--lonerider.

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GioAllie

Apr-18-13 1:44 PM

you are apparently happy--you should be, you've been one of the cheerleaders, and those felons are most appreciative of you support--and you didn't get reimbursed like those bought and paid for senators--you were free.

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formerlyphil

Apr-18-13 1:51 PM

will somebody please tell somebody else that the very definition of criminal is a person with disregard for & non adherence to law. was adam lanza a felon? how about dylan klebold? also, please provide evidence of cash for votes. meds need tweeked.

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formerlyphil

Apr-18-13 2:03 PM

you know somebody's upset when the caps lock comes on. made such progress too. shall we discuss what specifically was in the defeated senate bill?

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formerlyphil

Apr-18-13 2:33 PM

from what i understand of the bill itself, in its entirety, i'm surprised it didn't pass. it was chock full of warm fuzzies for both lefties & righties.

also, i don't understand why someone would repeatedly mention the immense pain of the victims' families. i can state without equivocation that the vast majority of us wouldn't wanna imagine that horror, let alone inflict it upon someone else. the repeated mention of unspeakable acts is meant to stir emotion, which often times is the deterrent of logic.

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GioAllie

Apr-18-13 9:11 PM

rather lengthy, but appropriate in lieu of recent comments. 'FEB10-2012--SITE-"convicted Felon? Need A Gun? Just Go Online."While buying a GUN IN A STORE REQUIRES EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND CCHECKS, DESIGNED TO BLOCKCONVICTED CRIMINALS AND MENTALLY ILL FROM GETTING THEIR HANDS on deadly weapons there is no such check for online buyers[I forgot caps were on.

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GioAllie

Apr-18-13 9:13 PM

that from an NBC investigation--here's more--In one staggering transaction ,undercover security experts bought a gun capable of taking out a helicopter. The transaction took place in a parking lot after dark.

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GioAllie

Apr-18-13 9:18 PM

more-when a buyer took possession of a glock23 w/hollow point bullets,the seller told him-I shouldn't be selling you this--but he did anyway. When the NBC crew asked why, he said he couldn't be picky." Still think that background check vote went well, and you all WON .LONERIDER AND PALS?

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GioAllie

Apr-18-13 9:39 PM

felons--lonerider-felons--that's who joined you in your cheering--felons and internet salespeople.

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formerlyphil

Apr-18-13 11:55 PM

"While buying a GUN IN A STORE REQUIRES EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND CCHECKS, DESIGNED TO BLOCKCONVICTED CRIMINALS AND MENTALLY ILL FROM GETTING THEIR HANDS on deadly weapons there is no such check for online buyers[I forgot caps were on.

let's try this....

h t t p://reason.c o m/blog/2013/04/10/background-check-compromise-would-close

try to follow along..

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formerlyphil

Apr-19-13 12:00 AM

it's obvious we all, myself included, could most likely be benefitted from a better understanding of legal variances. what would we all like to see?

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sonoma

Apr-19-13 7:12 AM

Very well written and accurate article.

In spite of the liberals exploiting the various victims families for the emotional appeal to offset the facts, the facts won out in the end.

In spite of the liberals trying to demonize the 5 Million law abiding gun owners many of whom are your friends and neighbors, logic won out in the end.

In spite of the liberals portraying former military, and current and former police officers as scum of the earth with blood on their hands because they joined a pro firearm group, cooler heads prevailed.

In spite of the liberals claim of 90% support for gun control measures folks asked the question---If that is the case why are senators from half the states afraid to vote for the measure against the wishes of the people they represent.

In spite of the liberal claims the NRA alone can vote them out of office folks can count and realized the NRA membership is less than .016% of the population.

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sonoma

Apr-19-13 7:19 AM

The bill failed because in spite of the lies, half truths, information withholding, mis-statements, attempts to appeal to emotions, and distortion of the facts, most people do not trust the government and saw through the spin. They realized this was simply another attempt to put a check mark beside one of the items on the presidents second term liberal agenda.

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GioAllie

Apr-19-13 9:25 AM

"--I guess some can't understand that the "victims families" could have very well declined the administration's invitations to become involved. Just another attempt to place a smokescreen over the fact that a group of greedy senators were bought and paid for by Wayne's world, AND DUES FROM Nra members--some of which were included in support of the Background felon check ammendement.

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GioAllie

Apr-19-13 9:30 AM

Sonoma--one little problem--where did you find the 90% falsehood you posted? That figure referenced background check support only--1 "MEASURE" not "measures" as you posted inaccurately......

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sonoma

Apr-19-13 10:46 AM

Gioallie-- logic and a bit of math---Both the Bloomberg and CBS polls also claimed over 80% NRA members supported background checks. Problem is they found more NRA members than possible in a random survey.

The CBS poll claimed 11.2% of survey respondents said they were NRA members. That is mathematically impossible in a random survey because less than 3.5% of households contain an NRA member.

Several of the Senators who voted against the provision stated their constituents were overwhelmingly against the provisions. Since nearly half voted against the provision based on voter feedback it is impossible for 90% of the overall population to be in favor of it.

This was an emotion driven attempt by the liberals who ignored the facts and tried to force something on the voters that they really didn't feel was going to work once the emotion subsided and common sense took over.

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