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Hoyer Is Supporting The Constitution

April 7, 2013

To the Readers’ Forum: A writer expressed surprise that a county legislator (a minister by day) raises questions about prayers before public legislature meetings....

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Harold

Apr-07-13 6:15 AM

The writer forgets to mention that Mr. Hoyer also proposed to do away with the Pledge of Allegience.

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Maddog80

Apr-07-13 7:00 AM

Maybe hoyer has a phobia of people talking in unison. Either way it's a non-issue until someone makes it an issue. I am not religious but still end up saying grace with certain family and friends before meals. I am fine with it. That is their tradition. I am not going to get into an argument over a 30 second prayer. The words just mean something to them that they don't to me.

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Lilrud

Apr-07-13 7:04 AM

Maybe because the Pledge of Allegince had "under God" inserted in it. That would be the right thing to do.

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Brent1

Apr-07-13 7:35 AM

"Under God" being generic is fine according to the US supreme court. Hoyer is not above the Supreme court.

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duckster

Apr-07-13 9:22 AM

I do not agree with Mr. Hoyer's stance on the County Home. I do however, like his general stance on social justice. If he was a representative in Boston or NYC he would fit in. Out here in the back woods it does not play.

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duckster

Apr-07-13 9:24 AM

On separation of Church and State the following is indisputable, though not politically correct: One thing that separates us from the animals (middle east) is that we do not allow religion to guide policy... Think about it..

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Lilrud

Apr-07-13 9:35 AM

The problem is, people are pushing to use their religion to set policy and it's happening more and more with right wing Christians. The Middle East does not have a monopoly on this.

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50s4ever

Apr-07-13 9:38 AM

I don't careif "under God" is in the pledge. It wasn't there when I first learned it. Prayer at meetings? Up to the individuals. As for a letter Jefferrson wrote to someone....that is not the constitution-which by the way, he wasn't around to write. He was in France. Also the 1st amendment has been destroyed and misconstrued by the courts and politicians and got away with it for many decades. Primarily the idea that it includes all government from fed to municipal. The constitution did NOT say that. They intended states rights to take precedent. And people live incertain places because of the prevalence of like beliefs. Not D.C. beliefs.

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MacKenzie

Apr-07-13 10:10 AM

The Constitution says that we have freedom of religion, in other words to practice the religion we choose. It also protects us from a "state run" religion, as was the case when our founders left England. The separation of church and state has been b a s t a r d i z e d by our courts. This was put in the Constitution so our government cannot impose a particular religion of us. It was not intended to keep anything related to religion out of the public arena, like so many think.

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MacKenzie

Apr-07-13 10:11 AM

on us, not of us.

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MacKenzie

Apr-07-13 10:12 AM

A general, non-denominatiional prayer before a meeting is not in violation of the Constitution.

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50s4ever

Apr-07-13 10:24 AM

Military academies, state police, even the VFW uses generic prayer never mentioning Jesus.

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Harold

Apr-07-13 11:06 AM

The bottom line is that no one cares if Buddha or Muhammed is mentioned. There's only a problem when Jesus Christ is mentioned. Most people don't have a problem with religion as long as it's not the christian religion. There is a war against christians and christian beliefs. Why, because satan only has a problem with the christian religion because Christ is God.

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Maddog80

Apr-07-13 3:05 PM

No one has ever knocked on my door, awakening my baby to ask if I have heard the good word of Allah or Buddha. You talk about homosexuals pushing themselves on people. No gay has ever knocked on my door asking if I want to become gay with them.

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50s4ever

Apr-07-13 9:58 PM

No religious person ever pushed through the supreme court a law that said I had to shower with them. One of you pulled my last post...(and three others today)when I mentioned a particular religion. If this one goes, I know the real problem is I disagree with your "sexuality" and you can't handle it. Censorship is one more reason to dislike you.

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Mrsgio

Apr-08-13 8:57 AM

Hitler censored people he didn't agree with.

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sueanne

Apr-08-13 11:37 AM

I had a post pulled because i called someone a creep.

I don't get it? Maybe it has some thing to do with the moderators mood?

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GioAllie

Apr-08-13 12:46 PM

I believe whoever decides on what is offensive, has done a good job--and why would political affiliation have anything to do it? I do agree, "family" and I might add, legal names are off the table..for obvious reasons.

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Brent1

Apr-08-13 12:46 PM

Lone, you may be right. I know Christie and I know John and the pulls here are done by Andrew Cavaretta, I think....

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50s4ever

Apr-08-13 1:29 PM

Of course they could always look up some professional opinions on pedophiles and sociopaths being considered "born that way" as are addictive personalities. I don't think those blogs have a censorship button, though. Should I send money to get Cavaretta out of jail? lol

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Apr-08-13 1:44 PM

The verse regarding Mark is specifically referencing money.

That passage was not used properly.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Apr-08-13 1:47 PM

"Hitler censored people he didn't agree with."

Your point? More logical fallacies (this one, the guilt by association ad hominem fallacy). Mrs.GeoMetro has the logic of a 2-cylinder mind in a world of 8-cylinders.

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Mrsgio

Apr-08-13 2:07 PM

Gioaliceirony, is my statement incorrect?

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sueanne

Apr-08-13 2:19 PM

Gioaliceirony, your small insult simply shows your character to all the other posters. ;)

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50s4ever

Apr-08-13 2:20 PM

It looks to me like youryap is an alias of emelye. Same fixation on a few words.

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