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Those Who Govern Cannot Be Trusted

March 19, 2013

To the Readers’ Forum: “Aaron Seekins II, a farmer by trade left his farm and family and enlisted in Captain Levi Rounsewell’s company of minutemen, which marched on the alarm of April 19, 1775......

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Mar-19-13 4:28 AM

The letter writer says we can't trust progressives or Obama (Democrats). She left out that we also can't trust Conservatives or republicans as they also govern. Audrey says our founding fathers wrote a constitution stating that they themselves and all future polititians could not be trusted. I really don't think that is what they had in mind.

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Mar-19-13 5:13 AM

Actually capri, if you understand modern day politics, almost all politicians are now progressives including Republicans and conservatives. Very few Federal or State level politicians are actually not Progressives. America used to be governed by representatives of the voters and taxpayers. Now it is governed by two parties who decide who their candidates are solely on how well they listen to the "big agenda". Money talks in campaigns, and whomever has the money gets to be in the spotlight. For some reason the sheeple are conforming to this, or the voting system is broken. I'm sorry but if anyone thinks that both parties aren't scooping up as much taxpayer money as they can get, and redistributing it someplace else, then you are smoking something. Both of these parties do not care at all about Americans. All upper level politicians become rich off of their jobs somehow or some way. I don't become rich off of mine... Why should they serve me and become rich off of me?

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Mar-19-13 6:44 AM

So tired of hearing about guns. Guns this and guns that. Audreys the same one who said NAFTA didn't allow jobs to be outsourced, blah blah. I don't trust people like her.

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Mar-19-13 8:09 AM

This writer is hysterical and pathetic at the same time. People like her love to spread doom and gloom and paranoia. All of these "wackos" that want to take up arms against the government should go find yourself a nice little place deep in the woods so you won't have to deal with human beings.

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Mar-19-13 8:31 AM

The author posts the same false argument that the NRA repeats. No one is trying to repeal the 2nd amendment. Some in our govt. are trying to make make it more difficult for felons or mentally ill people to get them. That's the background check. This won't eliminate the the danger these people present but currently it is very easy for these people to obtain guns without buying them in a back alley somewhere. Having these loopholes does not make us more safe. The 2nd amendment mentions a well-regulated militia. This was important because in the early years of this country we couldn't afford a large standing military. The closest thing we have to this today is the National Guard. The millions of gun owners in this country (like myself) hardly comprise a well-regulated militia. I support the right to bear arms. I also support the needed regulation to protect our people.

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Mar-19-13 9:02 AM

Lot of sheeple out here today Audrey. Good letter.

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Mar-19-13 9:14 AM

"Those Who Govern Cannot Be Trusted"

Then why do you re-elect the same officials over and over?

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Mar-19-13 9:16 AM

and the absurdity continues

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Mar-19-13 10:38 AM

Boys lock and load its all going to erupt. There is no possable this country or world can continue down this path. There is nothing or no subject you can think of that is not loaded with corruption start to finish. Plain common sence tells us it can't possably remain in this state. Anti gunners are in denial of the predictable future

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Mar-19-13 10:50 AM

Those who want to see law abiding gun owners bow to this government are exactly the ones that will come running to us for protection in the face of emergency. I was taught in the boy scouts always be prepared and we never even thought about our fellow scouts being gay. Isn't that weird.

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Mar-19-13 11:02 AM

Ya see it's the anti gunners who truly live in fear and think johnnie law will protect them. When the revolt begins what side of the line do you think the popo will be on. The only military strong enough to break the back of the us military is the American citizens. The two will unite without a shot ever being fired the us military is we the people

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Mar-19-13 12:36 PM

In setting up our democratic republic 73capri, our nation's founders were historians enough to understand that democracies/republics were historically short lived entities, always having quickly died out, on average, 200 years after founding. (Historically speaking, we are on borrowed time, but right on schedule if you look at the process of how all previous republics disintergrated) Upon exiting the Constitutional Convention in 1787, Ben Franklin was asked as to what type of government he and the others had created for the county. "A republic, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT" was his answer. In fact a number of the founders warned in their writings about the folly of trusting those in government. They warned that the natural tendency of government has ALWAYS been to take power from the people and assume it unto those in office, a primary cause of the very limited historic success of democratic states.

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Mar-20-13 9:57 AM

The liberals have been trying to disarm the citizens since the early 70's that I am aware of.

There are 105 countries that have a higher murder rate with the use of a firearm than we do. ALL of them have some sort of citizen gun control.

The just completed U.S. Justice Dept's report stated that Australia's gun ban DID NOT reduce homicide rates in that country.

One of the recent gun control proposals in NEW YORK was to CONFISCATE firearms. Sounds like a second amendment issue to me.

If it is a safety issue why is it just the LIBERALS that think the gun is the problem. None of mine have ever discharged on their own.

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Mar-20-13 10:53 AM

Jamestownite, I searched my files and found the forum on NAFTA, nowhere in them did I say that trade agreement didn’t allow outsourcing, check the archives and get your facts straight. Please wake up, we vote because we can’t trust those who govern, however our system is broke and there is a lot of outside interferences like illegal aliens who vote, foreign governments backing our candidates and the left leaning media. We vote in an attempt to get rid of them in hopes the next will be a bit better. Also people of this country have become complacent and too many don’t vote. All these things have an affect upon who gets in and who stays. Those who do are blind to what progressivisms are. Whataduck, show me where I said that the government is pushing to get rid of the amendment. No false statement was made. You made an assumption. Madman I already have a place in the woods because city people will be looking for anything they can get when the day comes. You included. How will a backgrou

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Mar-20-13 10:59 AM

. How will a background check detect mental illness? Felons, well do you really think such people will register their guns? Those who govern would play*****to get rid of the amendment too hard. They will regulate up to death first. I stand by what I say don’t trust those who govern you, such people look at the Constitution as a document hindrance

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Mar-20-13 12:46 PM

Wow! This seems more like a meeting of Paranoids Anonymous than a discussion of a political issue. FWIW, "they" are not coming to take away your guns.

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Mar-20-13 12:49 PM

I would reply to this letter that those who govern can't be trusted but neither can the governed be trusted. That's one reason why I own firearms.

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Mar-20-13 1:26 PM

David--here is a cut and paste from a NY newspaper.

Cuomo confirmed the proposal, previously worked out in closed session, called for a tougher assault weapons ban and restrictions on ammunition and the sale of guns, as well as a mandatory police registry of assault weapons

No second amendment issues here---yeah, right----What part of "BAN" is unclear

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Mar-20-13 1:33 PM

If you don't like that one try this one. If you don't like it there are a couple dozen more on the web.

New York Gov. Cuomo supports gun confiscation - National ...


Dec 28, 2012 · Gov. Andrew Cuomo, D-N.Y., supports a plan to confiscate guns in response to the school massacre in Newtown, Conn.

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Mar-20-13 6:00 PM

Very nice resurch dog. You make my a proud American. Wish I would have gotten the duck grant

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Mar-20-13 6:07 PM

We're done folks. By all accounts, regardless of political orientation, we have been sold out, divided, and quarted. Better hide your guns because I think you'll need them for more than hunting... like our founding fathers/women knew. There's no problem spending TRILLIONS of our tax money on fabricated wars in which 18 year olds, not polician's kids or rich, die in. Close a school? Let old folks go without food? They are the bums in today's US. I won't even get into the tax dollars spent on foriegn "aid"...

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Mar-20-13 7:50 PM

Ok, I had to look into the duck thing. This research investigates the urgent matter of "Social Phenotypic Plasticity" in the male reproductive organ of the duck. OMG, Leno could easily do ten minutes on this, but more importantly the ducks need to know too, but it's bigger than any of that! According to the CBS article; "Among those having a personal experience with the study are young minorities. The project will incorporate high school students from under represented minorities through the Yale University Evoluntionist Program". Well, you certainly have to give credit to the Yale University "Grant Writer".

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Mar-21-13 5:12 AM

People should always have the right to own guns. The more important issue is getting rid of all these greedy corrupt politicians. 95% of these politicians are career politicians and need to find another trade. All 530+ politicians in congress, senate and judicial branch need to be investigated. If any of them have benefited from their job they should be held accountable by being sent to prison.

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Mar-21-13 9:29 AM

Seedog you are right about the free stuff! "A gov't that robs peter to pay paul,will always have the support of paul" I think the lefties got their eyes opened up when they realized there are a lot of democrats who own firearms,and are not willing to be in the lefties flock of sheep. Lets hope the dems with guns have memories when it comes election time.Harry Reid, what a paper thin politician! Go what ever way the wind blows.Lets just see if he joins the NRA before the next election when his numbers are low in all the polls!!!

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Mar-21-13 1:30 PM

The founding fathers new that this day would come. Here is a quote from the father of the constitution;" If ever time should come,when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in gov't, our country will stand in need of it's experienced patriots to prevent it's ruin". Samuel Adams 1776!!! I'd say were just about there wouldn't you? These men had insight,intelligence,and the ability to lead,something today that is sadly lacking in state and federal gov't!!!! These men had no need,nor the want for today's dog and pony shows going on from coast to coast. Today's politicians are nothing more than a bunch of blowhards with more money than brains. Their eyes are on only their own betterment,and the prize is the bill of rights!!!!!

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