Sign In | Create an Account | Welcome, . My Account | Logout | Subscribe | Submit News | All Access e-Edition | Home RSS
 
 
 

Public Hearing Held On CLCS, Maple Grove Football ‘Merger’

January 9, 2013

Last month’s proposal that the football programs at Chautauqua Lake Central School and Maple Grove Junior-Senior High School be merged is anything but finalize....

« Back to Article

 
 
sort: oldest | newest

Comments

(49)

dragonman

Jan-09-13 5:07 AM

0 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

carlaw

Jan-09-13 5:20 AM

No way!

1 Agrees | 8 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

bobbojr

Jan-09-13 6:24 AM

Why no way! How childish, how immature, how uncaring to ensure that youg people have a JV team. The student population is decreasing and this is a way to maintain JV squad and your response is NO WAY. Time to grow up and be a man instead of stuck in your high school mentality from years ago.

9 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

section6fan

Jan-09-13 6:50 AM

Couldn't agree more with CL joining the Maple Grove team under the terms of retaining the MG identity and brand. I realize such a proposal heavily favors the Maple Grove athletes and their community, but the Red Dragons have built a premiere football brand and identity that is respected state wide, and it is worthy of protecting. I hope the CL community will recognize that and accept the invitation to become welcomed members of the MG Family. It would be a privilege to include the talented CL athletes in our tradition of excellence -- and together, both communities can celebrate our newly formed team in the Carrier Dome next November.

4 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Griffin60

Jan-09-13 8:37 AM

Here's the big question ... Will the state wide respect and the identity go to court and represent the district and its board members when a 9th graders parents sue because a senior broke the kids neck at practice? Like it or not all the D teams have kids playing at age inappropriate levels at practice and some in games! This is a clear safety violation and its just a matter of time before liability is the issue. The State really needs to address this and enforce age appropriate competition at practices and games. By MG and CL coming together shows the districts acting in a proactive way not a reactive way. The terms of the combination can be worked out but the combination must take place!

2 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

proconserv

Jan-09-13 8:38 AM

The deal should be an even split regardless if the Dragons have built a decent football program. This is the thought process (have to maintain that identity) that has helped bring our school taxes to levels beyond anything that is manageable with the current state of economy and tax base. If MG votes down an even split, then CL should certainly do the merger with Sherman/Ripley.

3 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

proconserv

Jan-09-13 8:42 AM

I should also mention that I do support MG/CL merger, but also support an even larger scope with regard to mergers among the football programs at Clymer/Panama/Sherman, Ripley/Westfield/Brocton and Randolph/Pine Valley. These merged football programs would make for great competition and within a reasonable close driving distance.

5 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

PleaseWakeUp

Jan-09-13 9:14 AM

My only issue would be the travel time. Isn't Westfield alot closer to Chautauqua Lake Central? What about Cassidaga Valley for Maple Grove? Just a thought, otherwise it makes good sense.

1 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

mrinbetween

Jan-09-13 9:22 AM

As a taxpayer, it seems a waste to have only 2 games a year played on the CL field. And as far as safety goes, freshmen have been playing against seniors in D football as far back as I can remember. But as long as we are thinking outside the box, I would pose a solution that would allow EACH school in D ball to keep its own team. Why not go to 6 man football? In places like Nebraska and Texas, 6 man has proved to be a viable solution to declining enrollments. Even the respected Max Preps has rankings for 6 man football. This could create less travel as well. Some D schools now travel to West Valley, Franklinville and points beyond, and those are long trips. If CattCo got on board with man, it could field a league and cut their travel as well. Worth looking at?

3 Agrees | 1 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Ironhorse7439

Jan-09-13 9:22 AM

Brocton players went and played at Westfield, Ripley players went to Sherman, West Valley players went to Ellicottville and Forestville players are going to play at Sliver Creek this year. Rarely are these combinations 50-50 I think what section6fan is trying to say is the stronger program with more history (MG) should take in the other program (CL). No one is saying practices can’t be split between the two schools or that CL can’t have a homecoming game but a team needs one identity and MG has created that over the last 20 years under Coach Fischer. I know a bunch of the parents at MG would welcome Players and Coaches from CL to join our program. I’m sure a compromise can be made.

2 Agrees | 1 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

redbird

Jan-09-13 9:41 AM

Hold on there Bobbojr. It's obvious that this merger is all about what Maple Grove wants. They could care less about the identity loss of CLCS. If you were to make it to the carrier dome in 2013[which i highly doubt] The rivalry wouldn't be with another team in class 'c',but within yourselves. Maple Grove would not show the respect toward the CLCS football players and make the claim they could have done without them. As always what Maple Grove wants they usually get, no matter at who's expense.If the Randolph and Pine Valley football teams were to merge as one writer mentioned, then it would be a real long time before you were to enjoy the dome again!!!!!

4 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Griffin60

Jan-09-13 9:47 AM

The kids would do either ( Be MG or MG/CL ) it's the parents that hold things up! Lets put all the players from both schools in the same room and ask them to work out team name. Would they go with new colors and new uniforms with the MG/CL team or just wear the MG uniforms? The kids want this let it happen! It would be quite a group of athletes !

3 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Ironhorse7439

Jan-09-13 10:28 AM

Same old Randolph B.S. Redbird. Trash MG all you want. Does that make you feel tough? If Randolph and Pine Valley were to merge would you wear the purple uniforms?

1 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Griffin60

Jan-09-13 10:58 AM

Mrinbetween ... Your right D teams have been putting 8th and 9th graders on the field with seniors. Does that make it right? First off 8th graders who want to play JV must take a selective classification test just to be on the field with JV players not varsity thus liability issues for school administrators and board members. If a 9th gradeJV players parents were to sue due to an injury leading to surgery or life lasting losses who do you think would win? The State must address this issue! In the mean time let's look smart here and get ahead of this for the safety of the kids!

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

section6fan

Jan-09-13 12:24 PM

Well said Ironhorse, that's exactly what I meant but you said it better. I'm not just advocating this for Maple Grove, this is for any combined team that has a program that has demonstrated years of excellence. And redbird must be a Cardinal (gee, does his name give him away?) and he's an angry little bird. But guess what? I'd advocate the same for Randolph -- they match Maple Grove with their excellence on the gridiron and being a school that is identified with a strong program. Come on redbird, let's be honest, you would want the same. Ironman is right, would you put that Cardinal helmet on a purple uniform? I don't think so. But if you were merging the girls basketball program, it would be Pine Valley who would win out because they stand for excellence in that sport. So let's show some respect for the bigger picture -- nobody is crying that it has to be MG's way always but in a sport they've excelled at for over 2 decades, they deserve preservation.

2 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

mrinbetween

Jan-09-13 1:07 PM

Griffin, I didn't say anything about 8th graders playing varsity, don't try to put words in my mouth. If you are so worried about a lawsuit, where do you draw the line? Can 11th graders play against seniors? Should just the same age players face each other? What about weight, does that enter the equation? This isn't wrestling, its football.

1 Agrees | 1 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

redbird

Jan-09-13 1:21 PM

Don't get your panties all up in a bunch. Just on the outside looking in.I'm sure you will be stirring up the hornet's nest when this issue comes to Randolph. And by the way, I picked redbird because i like cardinals they are awesome birds!!!!!

3 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

TheBlackCloud

Jan-09-13 3:42 PM

It's time for the world to grow up and realize times have changed. It is not about everyone getting a trophy, it's about good sportsmanship and teaching our youth that the world is full of change and it is a part of life. No one wants to have a loss of an identity or a connection to the past, but reality is that the population for area schools is going down and the higher the tax area the less new families moving in. I think parents need to stop influencing the youth on issues like this and focus on what is right verses what I want. You do the youth a disadvantage when you teach them they should be given everything verses earning it. As for youth being hurt and lawsuits, we live in a lawsuit happy state, do not blame folks for having a concern about this. Help produce leaders verses those who think they are owed. This thinking is why China will own the US, we do not take ownership or responsibility for things. As Always The Black Cloud - with Rain

3 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

sammy128

Jan-09-13 5:46 PM

Well I knew it would come to this. If you look at my comments on the other article (double coverage) you would see that i said it would be the parents. With the comments in the paper as a chaut lake parent there is no way i can support that. griffen, i know who you are and you know who i am. there is no way i would support this under those terms. i grew up in this community and it was hard for me to support the merger being combined but i did because i knew it was the right thing to do. but for them to say the things that were said in the article? you know what? Kiss my a**! i understand keeping identity but i also understand that times are different. its typical. i knew the MG parents would never go for it and i will never support a program where our kids become MG dragons. its a combined team or nothing.

2 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Griffin60

Jan-09-13 6:13 PM

Mrinbetween ... Didn't mean you said it but when you say 9th graders you must know we have 8th graders out there to. I would draw the line with aJV team and a varsity team. Both teams practice separately and if a 10th grader is big enough and skilled enough then move him up to varsity. I know this is not wrestling but if your in charge you must create SAFE situations for the kids not unsafe situations!

Sammy calm down none of the particulars have been worked out. Don't think that the comments here are what's happening.

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

sammy128

Jan-09-13 7:32 PM

griffen. you read the article right? this needs to be let go. other avenues need to be pursued. you know i supported this at first. I took the time to attend the board meeting and voiced my support. The community will not support this now after MG's views were clearly expressed in that article. Chaut lake kids are welcome to become red dragons? really? its selling out. i cant support this with those terms.

1 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

mrinbetween

Jan-09-13 7:43 PM

6 man football solves many problems for many schools.

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

KittyCat

Jan-09-13 8:18 PM

When their numbers go down so they don't have a team what are they going to do. They need to compromise. Their No Way response is childish in this day and with the amount of money that these schools spend on football. There are other sports than just football, maybe there won't be many teams and they can spend the money elsewhere. Let them merge with Sherman and Ripley.

2 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

randomthinker

Jan-09-13 8:19 PM

Chautauqua Lake beware - Word on the street is Maple Grove is good at violating section 6 rules in other sports which could have made their teams ineligible - but was able to sweep under the rug out of view.

2 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Ironhorse7439

Jan-09-13 9:04 PM

Random this is not the place for haters like you to make accusations with no proof of rules violations you don't know anything about. Just a bunch of rubbish.

1 Agrees | 1 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Showing 25 of 49 comments Show More Comments
 
 

Post a Comment

You must first login before you can comment.

*Your email address:
*Password:
Remember my email address.
or
 
 
 

 

I am looking for:
in:
News, Blogs & Events Web